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You boys are making me rethink my January trips west!

I understand gim. I don't totally disagree. And nothing freaks me out like seeing a red neck open carry in a Walmart. But Elijsha Dicken did just that, whipped out his handgun and stopped a mass shooting at exceptional range. Also, a 12-gauge auto is a lot different than a .410 single shot. So...

Lethal15 feet?? Lethal 40 yards?? I don't even shoot much, and I guarantee you I can dance a tin can around at 20 yards with 50-year-old eastern bloc 9x18. 40 yards with bird shot on a human. Nope. I may be insecure, but I know better than that.

Only tall grass I ever saw there was CRP. and very little of that nowadays. Everything else looked grazed down to nubbins. There are still birds there, but you'll have to cover a bunch of miles to find them.

I agree. Having said that, If I'm carrying a .410 or 28 sxs. I'm packing. And it's not for protection from 4 legged animals!

Looks like Jonsy's heading to the truck with that one.

Gucci bound!

I think britts are probably the best house/hunting dogs. Small, calm, very affectionate.

Ha, so I know you're not a fair weather only type guy, if you want a sxs, you're not going to want double triggers. They are a pain with gloves on. So the Fair Isid or that round body Rizzini comes to mind.

What a crock!

The only time I see the end of shooting hours nowadays is if I don't leave the truck till about 4:00.:mad:

In my opinion that is the absolute best pheasant dog style. Is that a vizsla trait?

I guess the 1st question would be, how much you want to spend? The Turks are making some ok looking 16s. But If I didn't want to take out a loan, I'd be looking pretty hard at the Franchi Instinct.

Your neighbor Quail Nerd is thinking about adding a dog to his pack. Maybe you can talk him into a nice shorthair instead of a silly setter!! :LOL:

Welcome, hang around and you'll pick up some info. Might even sell some pups.

If he's hitting sent and hauling ass, I'd bet he's bumping birds.

One of the sickest feelings you can ever have. It can happen for a number of reasons. I swear, I've seen older dogs take younger ones away in hopes they'll get lost and never come back. Old dog came back three days later. 4 days later a guy a few miles away called me with the young dog. Also...

I have owned a few, You will not beat the reliability of the Citori, no matter how much you spend. The feathers would be my pick as the lightning is a little heavy. I've owned 2 Fair Rizzini's. They are slimmer and lighter than the Citori. The 600 required a good cleaning after around 500...

Whatever breed you chose, there will be some exceptional breeders who try and breed for a shut off switch for folks who want house dogs. But if you can't get your dog's enough exercise every day, there will be problems. My dogs are pretty good but driving us crazy as we speak. Terrorizing the...

You can adjust his range with the e collar. You can also train to stop and hold when he hits sent. Both will take a great deal of effort. It's probably the most common problem in the sport. Some dogs figure it out, some don't.