Go to Dick's. They sell a silver four pack of Winchester Pheasant Loads in both 12 and 20 for $34.95. It doesnt' say so on the outside packaging, but inside are four boxes of Winchester Super-X Heavy Field Loads. These are not the normal promo loads. The 12 is 1 1/4 oz of #5's at 1220 fps. The 20's are 1 oz of #5's at 1165. At about $8.75 a box its a good price for upscale hunting ammo. We've used them in SD the last few years and they work great.