my experience in going at least once annually over the last 15 years, is I would see a covey a trip at most. That said I am hunting the most likely pheasant cover ,on both public, and private lands.. I think weather has been very hard on them over the last 3-5 years....Huns were plentiful but all in private ground. Grouse are around if you put in the miles, saw pheasants but I wouldn’t call them overly plentiful. Grass lands south of Leith were really good for grouse.