thanks guys, looks like i need to stop and take a peak and model number off of it; I already have a single shot New England 20guage I used when i started-and to be honest, i think it kicks more than a 870 20guage-- i figured would suffice until he makes it to a 12guage. Hell, maybe I could buy the gun off of him and use it for grouse hunting!
JS; no worries, kind of thought the same way, but this is a gun my FIL came across, hes one of those guys that buys alot of used stuff at a deal and flips them, mostly cars, and small engines. It wasnt a gun hes had memories with by any means...